I do not agree with this statement — Kam, I think grey suede shoes would be fine with black trousers and vest. The emphasis of a suit should be the fit, not the brands it is worn with.
I'm undecided about a neutral color or navy. I like the pair below navy patent , but I'm not sure about the gold buckle. Navy is a great color that goes with any color in the rainbow. I try not to match shoe color to pant color unless I'm really out of ideas but I just think it's playing it too safe. The classiest pairing would be a nude pump, the combo is so pleasing to the eye. But you can definitely get away with a light green shoe, or pink if you're bold, but metallic work beautifully for extra sizzle.
I do not recommend navy shoes for navy pants, because it is very difficult to get the shades to match. And then when you do, it's too matchy-matchy anyway. I think those shoes are adorable - and look comfortable too. How about the ivory? That could be pretty with the navy pants.
Otherwise I like Blonde's recommendation for nude, green, pink, metallic. Single pleats, plain front pants? What about button down collars, only with a sport coat, never with a suit? What can one wear them with? Plain front suit pants? No cuffs, what about those specifics? Are you saying you are only to wear a white shirt with a suit while you wear a jacket? Compare business attire with lawyer attire, this is why I need some definitions, are they the same? And those loafers with tassels are almost as bad as the flat square toed shoes you dislike.
Tassels are not kick ass but The Dude is. Thanks I like your site. Chestnut and oxblood may work, but it is preferable to match oxblood with oxblood. Not everybody cares about style and dress codes but some of us sucessful ones do.
The first step to find your sock is to choose the type of fabric you […]. I was wondering, would it be a completely bad thing to wear burgundy wingtips with a tuxedo? Chris, My thoughts are that burgundy wingtips would be quite inappropriate to wear with a tux and I love burgundy wingtips. Actually, the wingtip part may be more of a faux pas then the burgundy part. White bucks are for men who are confident enough in who they are not to allow insecure homophobic a-holes to dissuade them from wearing a classic and time-tested piece of footwear that looks fantastic for summer dress.
Have you ever thought about adding a little bit more than just your articles? I mean, what you say is important and all.
Your content is excellent but with images and videos, this blog could definitely be one of the greatest in its niche. What I consider stylish may be different to […]. I do have a small set of keys on a brass swivel bolt snap that i clip it on my belt loop with the leather strap attached to the keys inside the rear pocket. Is there any other suggestions? How to better carry keys on a bolt snap,and a cell phone,even without a jacket?
Jeffers is not threatened by loss of keys. I have a brass snap with bridle leather for my keys which I attach to my belt. Fine Young Gentleman… What is your viewpoint on wearing western boots with a suit?.. The black, dressy and fully polished kind, not the brown suede and matted kind…. Chris, Personally, it is not something that is part of my style, however, I have seen some men do it quite well. I think the key is for the right man to do it at the right time. Is it okay to wear my red vivienne westwood plastic orb tuxedo slippers with my tux if my pocket square is a matching shade of red or how would I go about arranging this, this is killing me…my collar is winged and my lapel is shawled, no cummerbund instead I use a vest under my jacket the suit is completely black including the tie and shirt for a black out look.
The red shoes and pocket square are meant to make a contrasting effect. Or would that be too much? Love the rules, and if any suggestions please do tell! I like your stuff. Sounds like something out of State Department school trying to teach Young Marines how to wear civilian clothes. Rudolph, I see no problem in wearing a shirt with a pocket with suspenders.
On a personal note, I prefer to avoid shirt pockets, but that is a matter of preference. Tony, To be honest, I have never heard of the fedora and vest rule you speak of. Trousers are the pants to a suit. Slacks are pants to wear with a blazer or sport coat.
Overall, I think you have a very good and very informative post. Wish more people would follow. Im wearing a white shirt, white pants and a plue blue blazer with brown shoes…can I wear a white belt with outfit? Or it should be brown? Chris, I would avoid a white leather belt.
But a white braided one or something of that ilk would likely be fine. Brown would be the safer and more conservative choice. Why are square toed shoes to be avoided? That is my preferred shoe for business casual at work. The preference is purely looks, not fit. Many others in my office have the same preference.
Is this just your own preference, or is there some etiquette reason for 18? Briago, There are a few reasons. But mostly they are just a signifier of bad taste. From a more technical perspective, they cut off the foot and create an unflattering line for the shoe; they create a horizontal line, whereas you want more vertical lines lines that run the length of the foot.
Furthermore, I have never seen a nice upper pattern dress a square toed last. I have a pair of Express Photographer suit pants, in black, but cannot find a vest in black to match the fabric on the pants… would it be acceptable to wear a chalk white vest instead?
I am glad to be re-reading these comments. I had the same question, and so I am relieved to find this answer! Wow, everyone here agrees, what a boring pointless waist of time. First rule, there are no rules. Let loose man, indigo denim jeans, brown beat up brogues and a nice fitted shirt with top button undone. Gets the ladies everytime whilst the blazers are complementing each other on joining their exclusive club of banality. Thou shalt learn the proper usage of the second person singular pronoun before attempting to employ it.
Your list is the grammatical equivalent of wearing a tuxedo with sneakers. Though too, a stickler for proper English; remember that this is a blog about fashion, and thus an English nanny adds little. Chris, of August 14, you are rude. The guy is just listing some things that most well dressed men would wear for business. Do you know what I mean? I realize this is an old post, but I was browsing around and found it, and feel compelled make a comment about those complaining about Rule 16, claiming that loafers are casual wear and therefore unacceptable to wear with suits.
I can vividly remember going shopping with my father back in the 80s where I learned more about classic, American style business suits and shoes than any 12 year old girl probably needed to know. Not low-cut slip-ons, but shoes that he used a shoe horn for. With maybe a little brouge detailing and tassels. No one would have said that my father was the trendiest guy at his L.
And he wore loafers. Luke, No, especially if it is a darker brown. Only White shirts should be worn under a suit? I love when guys mix shirt patterns with tie patterns. I find nothing sadder than the current trend of guys wearing flat toed shoes. How did this happen? I think it actually started in the UK.
Do you think congress would consider economic sanctions? Dave, No I am not saying only white shirts should be worn. Only shirts that have a white collar and cuffs and have some type of pattern, color or otherwise for the body and arms of the shirt, sometimes called banker shirts require a jacket. I am not sure what exactly started the square toed shoe disaster, however, I would gladly publish a piece on the history of how they came to be if someone wanted to write it.
The more glaring grammatical issue, as I alluded to rather snarkily in my previous reply, is the mixing of second and third person pronouns.
Please allow me recognise so that I may just subscribe. Amanda, Yes, of course it is okay to wear suspenders with a vest. Just make sure the suspenders fasten to the pants via buttons and not clips. Nick, I would advise against pairing a black suit whether solid or striped with brown shoes.
It really depends on the suit. If the suit is a solid black no striping or plaid in it then no on the brown shoes. I was planning on wearing a black suit and tie. Keep up the great work! You know, many people are searching around for this information, you could help them greatly.
I see it daily done right. Or a blue suit if the brown is dark enough. The Rule about matching colors of belt and shoe, what do you say about a dark blue suede Brogues shoe? By that I mean hat colors of pant should you wear? You guys have lot of times on your hands. Wear whatever you feel confortable wearing.
This is all mambo jumbo to me. I hand my cell phone to my belt because it is convenient and give me easy access to answer calls. If you want to button all the buttons on your suit, go ahead, it is yours and yours alone. Why else will there be a 3rd button? By the way, I never liked 3 button suits. Likewise flat front pants, I hate those. I hate pointed head shoes the most. People like you are the reason sites like this are made, to tell you that you are doing it wrong.
PS rule 28 brown suits, no go zone, no one looks good in a brown suit. There is a lot of commentary here. First, connie, this is a pretty good list of very basic rules one could follow when wanting to look groomed…this comes from a person raised in the Country Club who still wears a suit and tie to work everyday.
Now, there is common sentiment that too many rules is a bad thing, makes one look like they try too hard, etc, with the common theme being…make sure your clothes fit well. I have an opinion on that. Nothing destroys a look, or makes one look like someone TRYING to look like a guy in a suit than a pilfy or faded tie, unsigned shoes, a shirt color that has those tell tell whitened edges on the collar that suggests the shirt has seen and passed its prime. Make sure your clothes are in good condition, as well, and never, ever buy those ties that are patterned like modern art.
As for white bucks, I must absolutely disagree that they are for any occasion other than casual. I think the author has claimed white bucks as his personal trademark…as I have done with loud socks. Now, while my loud socks are a stamp on my fashion choice and I think they are awesome, I would not suggest that everyone try the trend as, truthfully, it is not correct.
However, once a gentleman dresses up and gets comfortable with the rules, they begin to break certain rules as to not look like…they read a set of rules. I honestly think this: There are hard fast rules. Match your shoes and belt. And, yes, square toe shoes should be avoided. DO NOT wear that outfit. You will begin to play with the rules.
Then, one day, you will find your equivalent to loud socks. YOu will find that one thing that attracts attention, but you feel confident about it…and interestingly…people will comment favorably. Cheap shirts look just like that. Like a cheap shirt. I know it sounds crazy to spend a couple hundred buck on three shirts, but wait for the Brooks Brothers buy three sales and snatch them up! Get two whites and an oxford blue. Then, as soon as you can do it again, do it.
Get another oxford blue, a pink, and one pattern. When wearing suits and ties everyday, you can get away with wearing the same five suits with the same five shirts week after week…. Mix them up, have a good assortment. You can spot that from a mile away. You can spend a couple hundred bucks and more on just one quality dress shirt at Neiman Marcus and other high end stores.
For a perfect fit, you can get bespoke shirts especially from London that go up from there. If your resources permit bespoke clothing, and you have a highly refined taste in clothing, you are reading the wrong the web site and should be reading the A Suitable Wardrobe web site. Would be curious what you would have to say about a ventless, double breasted, bespoke, suit jacket. You seem qualified to say. I enjoyed the post, but really disagree with the no square toe shoe rule.
I find they give a nice clean cut end to your suit, and most of the shoes now are pretty narrow with a slimmer squared-off tip. Thank you for the advice. I wish my son who just graduated college would sit and read the site. He does not believe what the old man suggests. Thank you once again! It has its high points, but it also has plenty of points with which I disagree, with varying intensity:.
Thou shall not wear slip on shoes with a suit. In fact, they should be avoided. With the right slip on shoe, it works just fine. In the case of shoes, I believe the horizontal created by the toe works quite well.
Thou shall not wear a tie without a jacket…. Thou shall leave the bottom button of vest waistcoat unbuttoned…. One should always button that bottom button, as not doing so looks sloppy. Thou shall not wear a solid black suit for business or professional activities…. Black can easily be worn for business or professional activities, and need not be reserved for funerals and formal events. All criticisms aside, the many points with which I do agree are very solid. But I do have one question: Skoogle- Business is a dark suit.
Formal is black or white tie tuxedo or evening jacket , or morning coats if before noon. Casual is anything in your closet except jeans and t-shirts. There is no such thing as semi-formal. You can wear a jacket and tie in casual settings. My my ole chats. Quite an astonishing bit of wisdom I do must say. One must be properly attired and catered to with impeccable taste, mind you, and the fellowship of his heritage I might bit want to add here.
Nobility is keen, and thus I require my personal staff to render the best attire, as it is a must, for myself, and those whom frequent these palace grounds. Sir James has informed me of what has been said here and I see merit in much of your commentary. Cheerio good chap…God save the Queen.
Was that comment generated by a computer? If so, the program needs a lot more tuning. If not, you might want to consider reading your posts aloud before submitting them. Mostly a correct list, save the overdressed rule. It is far better to be underdressed if unsure. Can say the exact same in the opposite scenario. Always better to be overdressed. Not so bad to stick out instead of humbly pretending to minimize personal difference. Groups are known to minimize internal difference to single out the different, hence the fear of sticking out, because it show that you as everyone are as different each other, among your group, as are those outside the group.
Far easier to adjust downward an overdressed situation than adjusting upward an underdressed state. I wanna wear it at my weddn…thnx wtng 4 ur rply.. Why would anyone that spells like they are 13 years old and texting be asking about tuxedo? For you it should be a nike shell suit and a pair of kswiss trainers…. Might want to get those checked. I much prefer braces to a belt, but do not feel comfortable showing them in public.
Do others feel the same, or am I too self-conscious? Braces can be one of the most attractive and stylish accessories, and proudly shown. Not boring ones almost all the ones you find in stores. Wearing a black and gray ensemble, and white shirt, a pair of high quality silk buttoned, of course braces in a solid red or blue hue are an attractive accent and should be seen.
If you have an elegant patterned pair, say Italian and probably rather expensive, with appropriate matching and contrasting colors for your outfit, they too are made and worn to be seen. Anybody still reading these comments? Really old post, but does anyone else find it offensive to see so many striped shirts worn with a pattern tie?
I was always taught to avoid that like the plague. Dan, Oftentimes the dress code for an event is unclear so I find that when in doubt, over dress. I still follow these comments. Pattern on pattern is a no-no for me just because of my look.
He works as a fashion editor for GQ. He can wear whatever he wants, including pattern on pattern, and he looks great. I need to stick to classic, Mad Men style fashion.
More men need to get to that point, well done. And I forgot to ask my question…I just notice the rule about ironing the collar. Can anyone elaborate about this? Does Justin mean the creased is too stiff? I work at a very casual workplace, people tend to bend his shirts, and i try to mantain the standard of proper dress for the business.
Can I still usimg the tie and the cufflinks under that enviroment or should I start using the jacket, even thought it will be overdressed? JC, Cufflinks are fine in a casual environment as far as I am concerned. But your co workers may not care for them. Either way, you should wear a jacket if you are wearing cufflinks. I cant tell you how many times ive tried to explain rule 48 to my friends. For the most part I agree with your rules. The belt and shoe matching has relaxed somewhat over the last few years, and white bucks are not badass……..
Overall, your rules apply, but you seem somewhat stiff. A few comments in regards to the rules and the posts. Makes you wonder whether the teeth are brushed or the underwear is washed. The image of a well dressed man is viewed from the bottom up. Do I have to mention that shoes trees are a must? A fine list brother sir. You won me over with 44 and 45 they are hilarious and very true. Fantastic list, not too pretentious. Find myself agreeing with point 9- if it has belt loops, it needs a belt!
Point 44 is awesome, really made me laugh! I agree with the other person who alluded to this list being very conservative. I have over 30 pairs of dress shoes all different colors.
I love mixing it up and creating my own style. I have over 50 dress shirts and ties, and 15 blazers in the rotation right now. To anyone just starting out this may be a really nice way to start off, but as you continue buying dress clothes let your imagination take control.
Look up the color wheel and learn to match hues. Mike, I certainly agree with you. The list is intended to be very conservative, foolproof if anything. Sounds like you have a well built wardrobe. Can you just wear a tie with just a waistcoat or does it have to be jacket? Evan, A lot of men wear a vest or waistcoat without a jacket. But that is not a look I like or really support. Any pair of trousers can have suspender buttons attached to them, any tailor should be able to do it for a few dollars or you can do it yourself pretty easily.
Just make sure the pants have a longer rise and sit higher on the waist so that they look better with suspenders. Your pants waist the top where a belt would go should be horizontal, even if you have a beer belly.
Nothing looks more slovenly than pants at a 40 degree downward angle, hanging over maybe hiding a belt at the same or lower angle. Oh dear, dear me. These should never be worn — ever. Any that exist should be melted down as the plastic waste they are and recycled into something with more appeal and style.
Something like joke dog turd or a plastic wart. This trio of ingredients is all that is necessary for awesome shoes or boots. My burgundy Monks shine like rubys. They take time and patience but the effect is worth the wait.
Is it acceptable to wear a pocket square with a red and white pattern, and a bow tie that is solid burgundy together? Could you recommend a tie and pocket square combination for a navy suit, white shirt and brown gucci loafers?
Robert, It all depends on how classic or not classic you want to go. If you want to keep it simple just go with a white pocket square and a solid navy or burgundy tie. The good news is that you can pair almost any color with white and navy — you could do anything from a pink paisley tie to a purple silk knit tie. Colored socks are a no no!! Real men wear dark socks to match their dark suit pant. Colored socks can be one of the few interesting options for a touch of style in a conservative outfit.
Check out A Suitable Wardrobe web site, which is an extremely high end clothing adviser and purveyor, and which one would expect to be ultra-conservative and it is. There you will find the proprietor wearing a bespoke dark suit, bespoke shoes, and…. There is a very famous concert pianist noted for wearing patterned hose in bright colors during concerts, and such hose are popular with church and concert organists.
Properly chosen patterns and colors e. When wearing a patterned bow tie and brightly colored pocket square, does a loafer with a bit and striped band become to distracting from the rest of the ensemble?
Jake, I assume you are referring to the Gucci bits with green and red stripe behind the bit. The shoes themselves will not distract. However, if you have a lot of other stuff going on like a patterned shirt, jacket or pants that could easily tip things over. Just purchased a navy suit with the perfect fit however I want a matching waistcoat.
I know the waistcoat should always be the same thread and colour but if not is there any other colour that may look the part? Wedding is in 2 weeks appreciate the help. Definitely a reception for a more dressed down look and I even wore one to my sons high school graduation with a sporty thin bow tie. My favorite is a navy pinstripe suit with a solid matching fabric waistcoat. These are my own opinions and some consider me old fashioned but I like it that way. Find out the dress for the wedding before settling.
You still have the contrast of the expensive tie against the suit. The only difference is that you are now extending the Color of the Black suit by wearing the Black Dress Shirt.
Geoff, Sounds like a pretty sick jacket. I can imagine some plain velvet slippers looking good with the jacket and pants. Or some very sleek loafers. I think since the jacket and pants will have such a strong visual presence you would want to keep the footwear simple and sleek. Equally at home below a suit as with jeans, if you wear them. But anyway, I have dragged on […].
Which again, is a false argument. But in fact, gray shoes can go with most colors of pants and suit. Nice combinations guide, makes life easier. I want to buy new shoes and need to know if these will fit with black jeans http: Wht kind of pants can I wear with some dark brown boot shoes for me this shoes are not like boots there like sperry topsiders. Hussan, I have never seen it done well, to be honest. You are obviously welcome to try the combination out though. How often do you see grey or charcoal pants working well with a light brown leather oxford?
Samuel, Pants that are both forest green and burgundy? Or green pants and burgundy shoes? Not totally sure what you are asking. But both sound fine to me. What pants should I wear with grey suede shoes that have a lighter brown leather trim around the soles and the soles themselves being white? Having said that, it is useful guide for beginners who are willing to explore the art of dressing up.
Not sure if I will ever venture into purple shoes though. So the shirt color plays no part in this decision? Burgundy shoe looks ok with brown pant, they both have redness; but white pant on purple or green shoe will look like a clown.
Not to mention is perfectly compliments and earthy colors of […]. If you can only afford one pair of dress shoes starting out, what color should I go? I looked at this chart for the first time today as I was debating on wearing black dress shoes with a light blue shirt and dark gray pants.
I ended up going with brown thanks to this chart…. Never had so many compliments. This is very very helpful. They appear like charcoal grey. Would be great if chart reflected this common shoe color.
What shirt color can I wear with light grey pants and navy blue shoe and can I wear a navy blue blazer? Dave, I used to think the same. But with a navy suit, black shoes can look great. I disagree on black pants and tan shoes not going I wore tan shoes black slacks and oatmeal v-neck with a white dress shirt last week and had no less than five women approach me and tell me how nice I look.
Dain, I do not, but it is feasible, perhaps I will put one together. Black will go with everything.
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